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PostPosted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:14 pm 
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"Item Manufacturing

When crafting an item, there is a chance that the crafter could create two items from one set of materials, or that the created item is a Foundation Item."

How high is the chance to craft two items from one set?


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 11:10 am 
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nobody knowsa the chances of the gracia skills...most of us play privates..
wont be high but still u may get shitloadz of mats if u r in pricate manufacture and u craft mats:D wtf! some dude comes and crafts 100 dmp and for example u get 10 dmp!pwnz..
but actually we dont even know how it would work:D
2 options
1) dorf sitting in private manufacture mode
some1 comes and for exampl crafts 1 cbp
doublecraft-->1 cbp for the dude using the dorf and 1 cbp for the dorf
2)dorf-->private manufacture-->dude comes and crafts for example SOM--->double craft-->dude gets both items:D


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:08 pm 
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3rd variant -> A dwarf under private manifacture. Some guy comes and tries, for example Forgotten Blade for 20kk fee -> the guy gets 2 FBs -> the dwarf gets 40kk :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:19 pm 
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no,the correct formula is:
-a guy wanna craft a db for 100kk :D double craft => 2 db for that guy and only 100kk for stupid dorf... but i think that double craft is rare for this kind of items like B,A,S grades stuff... he has been created more for mats ;)

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:30 pm 
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1st : double craft is only for C grade and lower
2nd : double craft/fundation craft success is around 2%
3rd : double craft never append on mats/consumable items (u'll never double craft DMP or mithril alloy for example)


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 2:58 pm 
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lightoflife wrote:
1st : double craft is only for C grade and lower
2nd : double craft/fundation craft success is around 2%
3rd : double craft never append on mats/consumable items (u'll never double craft DMP or mithril alloy for example)


so only items may be double crafted right?for example craft d grade boots xD!!:Dnever happened doenst mean wont happen right?:D


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 3:31 pm 
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It means that double craft isn't affecting the game at all. I don't know why they introduce it, anyway.
But still, those foundation items affect a lot and i can't pronounce myself if in good or bad.


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KentZ0ne wrote:
It means that double craft isn't affecting the game at all. I don't know why they introduce it, anyway.
But still, those foundation items affect a lot and i can't pronounce myself if in good or bad.


any new feature affects the gameplay...


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:05 pm 
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They facked the game enought with augmentation so ...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:31 pm 
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I agree.
Augmentation make characters overpowered if they are lucky. And this game is not about luck ( or yes ? ).


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 5:48 pm 
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afaik, double craft happens only on armors and weapons...
also, the double craft means the the one who uses the private creation shop has the chance to get 2 items in one set of mats, and in only single payment...

also, the chances of having a successful double craft is pretty low, so it doesn't make the game that much imba....
it still makes the game imba in someway, but since the rates are low, at least it would be hard to get...

as i explored the new system, i found out that the "foundation items" can be made stronger by turning it into masterwork equip...
masterwork equip starts from b-grade...
once the foundation item is turned to masterwork equip, it will have some bonuses...
for weapons, its like having a 2nd SA...
for armors, its like having 2nd set bonus...

for example[these are taken from L2 SEA]...
-> masterwork wiz tear - on fire: enhances MP regen
-> masterwork AOBA - earth: increases max HP
-> avadon circlet: robe use - increases pdef and casting speed

note:i don't know what the bonuses exactly adds to your stats.

i know, somebody will probably say that a char with a complete set of masterwork equip will be very imba...
that's very true, but it would really cost them much effort, adena and things like that...

but hey, it would take sometime to see a char with complete masterwork equip since the foundation items are hard to get...

EDIT: when i get the time, i'll post the list of every masterwork items...
and btw, weapons that are foundation items can be turned into masterwork items thru BS mammon, and it needs a certain number of items called "mammon's varnish(something like that)", depending on grade of the weapon...
afaik, armors that are foundation items dont need that item to be turned into masterwork item...

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:18 pm 
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all foundation items need varnish to turn into masterwork
foundation armor are actually bugged because each part of an armor who is fundation have a little part of the armor bonus but if you have full set of fundation, you don't have set bonus, only foundation bonus

example
avadon robe gives +15% casting speed and +5% pdef
u need helmet gloves, boots and robe to get bonus set
if you get a fundation avadon helmet turned into a masterwork avadon helmet robe, u'll get a certain % of casting and % of pdef from the helmet BUT u don't get bonus from set
so masterwork avadon helmet robe + normal avadon gloves/boots/robes don't give u set bonus
if you have a full set of masterwork avadon, u'll get bonus from each masterwork part but not the bonus set.
and the total of the bonus given by masterwork never equal to the bonus given by a set.
moreover, masterwork armor parts don't modify stats (INT, MEN, WIT, STR, CON, DEX) like bonus set does.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 12:25 pm 
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the new shops are kindda stupids too... top C grade and low B grades...:S

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 02, 2008 2:07 pm 
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NCsoft just wanted to make stuffs different again, because chars looked too much the same. They could make about tons of different materials coz it was easy, but making a set omg, or a weapon. That's too hard and takes time with almost no more money.

This low-b stuff should be like easier to craft, not to buy. That's horrible like someone was working with her/his sov for ages and finally got done, then comes NC: "hey dude cool sov, we gonna put it in shop anyway! Have a nice day and buy some more gamecards:D"


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lol!l2 becomes easyer and easyer omg..i dont like the idea of getting valhalla sword from lux shop..omg!


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