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 Post subject: Re: Cant Beat Nukers
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 3:55 pm 
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AlanTheGreat wrote:
1. remove some epics and get top mdef jewels vs nukers.
2. get talismans
3. spam trick & bluff and use hide properly.
4. u're a dagger anyway, u should usually 1-hit nukers, so u're doing smth wrong.
5. they probably have arcane shield so here's a good strategy : put divine protection on, they'll probably have arcane shield on so just hit them 3-4 times in the back and their mp will go to 0. rest of it should be piece of cake.

3. spam bluff on nukers with robe rezist stun +full epics while you removed epics for tops84 for mdef?waste of time.
do not fight em while enli just hide/run around pilars(if oly).use full set of water(sps),fire(sorc),wind(sph),dark(necro). leave only QA and how alan told change all other to oed s84 jwls.
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 Post subject: Re: Cant Beat Nukers
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:23 pm 
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A Ghost Hunter with full epics and +++ skills should be able to 1-3 stab any nuker besides a necro with summon. Just stop face stabbing for 1k and hit for 4k from the back. The way you get to the nukers back is your own choice.
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adames
 Post subject: Re: Cant Beat Nukers
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:31 pm 
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AlanTheGreat wrote:
1. remove some epics and get top mdef jewels vs nukers.


If he is in H5 server it's bad cause it was changed. Also Don't remove AQ + Baium.

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AlanTheGreat
 Post subject: Re: Cant Beat Nukers
PostPosted: Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:37 pm 
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adames wrote:
AlanTheGreat wrote:
1. remove some epics and get top mdef jewels vs nukers.


If he is in H5 server it's bad cause it was changed. Also Don't remove AQ + Baium.

wasn't changed much, epics still have lower mdef than normal jewels. and i only said some, ofc don't remove the ones who give u the stats u need most.

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adames
 Post subject: Re: Cant Beat Nukers
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 9:34 am 
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AlanTheGreat wrote:
wasn't changed much, epics still have lower mdef than normal jewels.


ok I'll find some time to show you...here are some comparisons:

Unsealed Elegia Necklace: M.Def 138
Valakas Necklace M.Def 125
Blessed Freya Necklace M.Def 132

Antharas Earring: 94
Unsealed Elegia Earring: 104

And it's pretty hard to make elegia in retail, people usually have vesper jewells^^

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AlanTheGreat
 Post subject: Re: Cant Beat Nukers
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:46 am 
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adames wrote:
AlanTheGreat wrote:
wasn't changed much, epics still have lower mdef than normal jewels.


ok I'll find some time to show you...here are some comparisons:

Unsealed Elegia Necklace: M.Def 138
Valakas Necklace M.Def 125
Blessed Freya Necklace M.Def 132

Antharas Earring: 94
Unsealed Elegia Earring: 104

And it's pretty hard to make elegia in retail, people usually have vesper jewells^^

this is high five part 4 changes, i'm 100% sure he don't has high five part 4 on his l2j, and if it does have, it's fucked up as hell so it won't have the updates in order.

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BladeTrinity
 Post subject: Re: Cant Beat Nukers
PostPosted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 8:19 pm 
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man u play high rate with full buffer?
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asachiara
 Post subject: Re: Cant Beat Nukers
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 11:30 am 
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MerLord wrote:
Hello there, im playing with a ghost hunter in a private server which is not like those trash servers.. skills are working and its balanced, you can hardly get +6/10 sets (max 25) and for skills are you need to farm. the server wants to have as much as possible relate to retail if you think of pvping/pve/tw/siege/oly/etc. enough of those... my question is that how am i possible to beat nukers?

i have my skills +25 (x1) and the rest +20/+10.. with a set of +8 full element and full epics. I have PvP belt (def) with CP shirt. I beat any ghost hunter/dagger in my server, and even the hero ghost hunter.

the problem is that I cant an avrege nukers, donno what should i do :/
any new skills that i need to know vs nukers?


Pls tell us more details..

Are you able to backstab the nukers more than once?
If yes what is the dmg amount u deal?
Do you play L2j?

Can you make an fraps on youtube?

something is wrong as most of the nukers cannot stand 4-5 blows in a row...

On nukers do not use focus death but focus power (if enchanted towards read dmg) you will have 75% of dmg form the back comapared to 90% on focus death (which in total makes difference about 100-200 dmg on olly buff) The reason is that focus death decrease your critical rate by 30% and focus power does not.. try it...
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NoFreaksAll0wed
 Post subject: Re: Cant Beat Nukers
PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:47 pm 
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btw get the fuck out of that server :D

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 Post subject: Re: Cant Beat Nukers
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 11:29 am 
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NoFreaksAll0wed wrote:
btw get the fuck out of that server :D



Agreed, nukers standing up to blows like that lol..... he has +25 everything or something :D

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 Post subject: Re: Cant Beat Nukers
PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 12:00 pm 
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actually even on retail nukers eat 1500-2k per backstab when stacked :)

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 Post subject: Re: Cant Beat Nukers
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2011 1:49 am 
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asachiara wrote:
MerLord wrote:
Hello there, im playing with a ghost hunter in a private server which is not like those trash servers.. skills are working and its balanced, you can hardly get +6/10 sets (max 25) and for skills are you need to farm. the server wants to have as much as possible relate to retail if you think of pvping/pve/tw/siege/oly/etc. enough of those... my question is that how am i possible to beat nukers?

i have my skills +25 (x1) and the rest +20/+10.. with a set of +8 full element and full epics. I have PvP belt (def) with CP shirt. I beat any ghost hunter/dagger in my server, and even the hero ghost hunter.

the problem is that I cant an avrege nukers, donno what should i do :/
any new skills that i need to know vs nukers?


Pls tell us more details..

Are you able to backstab the nukers more than once?
If yes what is the dmg amount u deal?
Do you play L2j?

Can you make an fraps on youtube?

something is wrong as most of the nukers cannot stand 4-5 blows in a row...

On nukers do not use focus death but focus power (if enchanted towards read dmg) you will have 75% of dmg form the back comapared to 90% on focus death (which in total makes difference about 100-200 dmg on olly buff) The reason is that focus death decrease your critical rate by 30% and focus power does not.. try it...

omg focus power instead of focus death?? u are very funny man. In a frontal battle it is better not to use focus power neither focus death . If u are playing in high rate full buffer l2 j server u have no chance to beat nukers especially sts and necros and no chance a dagger can kill a nuker in 3-4 blows in a server like that even with +25 skills
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