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 Post subject: Re: duelist oly buffs
PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:47 am 
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insane.... so maybe in h5 even aq and baium doesnt give additional damage from crit skills? O.o

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:56 am 
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It never did, for any class, except for daggers.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:13 pm 
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danello wrote:
It never did, for any class, except for daggers.


wtf so what the diference between dagger active skills and glad active skills? o.o

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:31 pm 
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Let me put it simple for you - dagger skills are considered as regular blows that can be influenced by the crit modifier, so when you use buffs that increse critical this is affected in the skill.

Gladi skills are not considered regular swings, so they are not influenced by the crit modifier, meaning buffs that increase critical have no effect on them. It is influenced by STR only! More STR means more chance of skill crit, and since gladi's mastery is influenced also by STR - more chance to get double hit (actual description is somethink like "double the duration of the skill"). This is the reason why glads run arround with -8-9 DEX and all are fine with it (well, they don't actually run, cuz they are slower than a turtle xD).


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:39 pm 
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Lud_Umora_Nema wrote:
Let me put it simple for you - dagger skills are considered as regular blows that can be influenced by the crit modifier, so when you use buffs that increse critical this is affected in the skill.

Gladi skills are not considered regular swings, so they are not influenced by the crit modifier, meaning buffs that increase critical have no effect on them. It is influenced by STR only! More STR means more chance of skill crit, and since gladi's mastery is influenced also by STR - more chance to get double hit (actual description is somethink like "double the duration of the skill"). This is the reason why glads run arround with -8-9 DEX and all are fine with it (well, they don't actually run, cuz they are slower than a turtle xD).


thats so strange :o yeah i know dyes, but i didnt know that only str gives everything for them =\

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:42 pm 
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You know now.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 12:52 pm 
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Dagger stabs have different formula to calculate damage....its hard to explain, just know that crit.dmg bonus is added to all stabs, but has no effect on physical skills of other classes. For other classes it's just for simple hits. If you dig up sites like goha.ru or l2guru you will find the answers. That info exists like since c4

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 1:37 pm 
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Taygetus wrote:
Dagger stabs have different formula to calculate damage....its hard to explain, just know that crit.dmg bonus is added to all stabs, but has no effect on physical skills of other classes. For other classes it's just for simple hits. If you dig up sites like goha.ru or l2guru you will find the answers. That info exists like since c4


i dont understand rus, and in guru cant find, they all are talking about h5 =\

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:26 pm 
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2x dmg is always 2x dmg (a.k.a. skills criticals), you cant modify it. this apply to blows and all phisical skills which have description "critical hit possible". its been like this since forever when they implemented those. the more str you have the more skill criticals (2x dmg) you will deal. it has nothig to do with dw-like buffs.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 2:42 pm 
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btw heard rumor that p.atk (not talking about STR) increase skill crit chance a bit, dunno how much it's true or not, but that guy, who told me this is playing glad since c3 @ Teon (Naia) and was few times hero

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 5:09 pm 
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and waht about warlord? same too? just str no dw no vs no baium aq ?

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:29 pm 
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yes warlord's and all other classes (daggers excluded ONLY) phisical skills are not influenced by dw-like buffs


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:32 pm 
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thanx, now i will know :S

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