wait wait
what are u talking about breal?'all around u' should mean mass pvp?

if yes wtf is a tank doing during a mass pvp with drako bow?!if the tank wants to use a bow he takes archer sub

btw if u UD ur target gona go out of the range(ur range sux)
and with pp 78 buffs u have 505 atk spd in IC set

btw there is ~2k hp diff when using draco focus and -4con dyes and +4 con dyes and health weapon
i would pick the bonus 2k hp

btw ontopic(we are going off!)
simple l2calc calculation
78 pa has 11,221k hp with hierophant 78 buffs in ic set +4con-4str and fb hp
and 707 patk
same pa 78 with ic set and +4 STR-4con

8960-HP and 909

200 apatk for 2k hp?

Yeah, my range sucks, thats why i have aggresion and arrest ffs. Tell me one character that doesnt use Bow in PVP, except Duelist and Nukers. No one cares for atk speed, you will only see. You had a critical. You hit for 2000 dmg.

cmon breal dont be joking
2k crit of da on what?elpy?

u have agression but ur oponent aint noob and keeps clicking away(since il agression doesnt hold u for 6 secs aint it?)
u have shackle while he has escape durees/escape shackle or at least mental shield buff

anyway forget about the DA

this is PA dyes topic

ofc DA can crit for 2k dmg. Prophets can, so i cant see a reason for the DA to fail.

ofc both can hit elpy for 2k

lets leave the jokes
maybe u can do that to a robe
keep in mind robes will keep the range..

keep in mind that you cant keep your eyes open for everything. L2 is MMORPG, that means massive pvp makes the game - if you are strong and you are dominating you have itemZ, if not you suck.

thats why u group up in pts and ur fellows watch ur back
also keep in mind that if a mage targets u he will at least debuff u..simple slow or vortex could do it
and if u r a tank during mass pvp u will equip a bow?!personaly i would try to agro and keep the light/robes alive

thats why my opinion us "dont pick str dyes"

And why u need this CON for, you have very high p. and m. def, but you lack P atk. Even if you just use DLE Crt Dmg with +4 STR you will rock, but you cant do anything with this -4 STR. I mean, CON will not safe you during PVP

pfffffff breal stop twisting it like mario
u said mass pvp
atm u r tryin to convince me that a tank with a bow is more efficient than an archer?
or a tank is great dd in mass pvp?where u have full buffed sphs with ~7-8k matk and snipelines(at siege) and full buffed prs in dead eye??
the tank is created to tank if u use it for damage dealing with 550 atk spd its ur choice
i prefer to pump my hp up and with my high pdef/mdef and hp keep my fellows alive
use hate auras/vengance/ud/shield of faith

i am not argueing with u its ur personal choice

my opinion +4con -4 str

I am trying to convince you that DA with +4 STR is more efficient with Bow thant DA with +4 CON and Sword + Shield in mass pvp. In 1 on 1 i am sure you will die if you don't have a bow in your inventory and you have to use them both, not just to rely on some more HP and poor dmg.

On mass pvp you'll not try to kill anyone, you'll just do your job, that is tank.
And for this you need shield, and shitloadz of HP.

+1 vawned..

@breal-ok whatever u say
im not gona waste my time anymore
if u believe so do it
its ur business

@topic:everything is said imo pick whatever u want and test it and if u dont like it just change it

kkkkkk with enough crap.
tank is a TANK.... dont try to make him dd bcuz you will fail both.
the best way to use tank in mass pvp i + 8 con - 4 dex - 4 str + 4 wit - 4 int, also with shild + health weapon no zerk + all defence and atk speed buffs.
and using aura hate + (if pally / tk use mass root
remember... L2 is a team game :]

-dex ???
dude do you even move with that - 4 dex and in IC set ?? ( another - 2 dex ) not to mention the shield defence rate you will lose
ok first dye + 4 wit - 5 int and you can also use + 4 con - 4 str or you can go only with the wit dye

and godsend some tanks use bows when they cant reach the target

ohrly?!i had no idea that the bow attacks have higher range u know?
my point is that its uneffective during a mass pvp