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Which of those options is acceptable for you?
Applied(+anything including full items but on very limited numbers on stock and at very high prices) 11%  11%  [ 21 ]
Applied(exp/sp/drop boosting type rewards such as runes and well known cakes) 18%  18%  [ 36 ]
Applied(nothing but meaningless accessories) 52%  52%  [ 102 ]
Disabled donation rewards 18%  18%  [ 36 ]
Total votes : 195
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 Post subject: [GRT]Donations:pros and cons
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:54 am 
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Please share your opinion about donations :
Which circumstances would allow you to play in a server with donation of type a/b/c/d/ without hesitation?
For example would you play in a server with applied donations of type c) ?Why?

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P.S:The rewards from A to d become lesser til E(none).Higher grade rewards include also lower grade ones.For example B contains rewards from E + the mentioned bonus reward.

Donations are totally volunteer acts of charity.Donators are not forced to spend money - they do it because they like to. Donations are not acts of buying in-game items for real currency.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 2:14 am 
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3rd option


PS: There only 4 options, so e) doesnt exist :P

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:14 am 
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ofc 3rd option. iz za best

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:28 am 
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3rd Option like it is on LineZeus

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 Post subject: Re: [GRT]Donations:pros and cons
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 12:01 pm 
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ofc 3rd,
donation =/= purchase

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 Post subject: Re: [GRT]Donations:pros and cons
PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 3:15 pm 
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when starting a server, the admin should've had his/her financial part settled, the donation part should be a help out, a somewhat reward for the admin having a great work done and not part of keeping up the server
so senseless accessories+1


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 09, 2010 10:00 pm 
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i know ull be hatin me but i voted for 1
afterall l2 gaming is business(off or private doesnt matter at all)
spending money and putting much effort to maintain a sv and keep all those whining players satisfied is not something easy
imo ur either a god damn idealist and u believe that u are created to spread happiness and joy either ur a realist and u try to get a profit (tbh i would never spend my money to make army of whining kiddos on the net satisifed)
the owners of a sv have to be motivied by smth more than "oh zis sv is pwnz" and the only thing that can ensure svs long life and constant updates IMO are donations
money rules the world and theres nothing new here
i have no problems with donations for full items if they are limited and they cost a lot
if there is a wacko guy that has money to spend on a game and that cash will go for maintaining the server(bandwidth,machine,antibot programs etc etc) so LET it be!
most votes are for useless items but meh..most successfull servers out there have always had donations for much more than masks...paradise,bfd,dex,rpg and many more

ofc if the server staff is well known and respected i would play there even if donations of type A) would be applied

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 Post subject: Re: [GRT]Donations:pros and cons
PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 1:26 am 
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game-affecting donations are ruining the competition therefore always makes lot of ppl cry which is negatively affects the server's image.
servers with A type of donations = instant no for me, im not spending time/energy on a server to get something where others can buy it. it looks foolish to me. and im not spending money on l2, i know way better things to use money for. and any succesfull server's community will buy those accesories cuz they might realize they are having a good time playing and they doesnt want it to be ended.
and i think most of the donation money is coming in from quest donations which doesnt affect the game play much. (azure)

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 10, 2010 11:20 am 
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imo highest income is frome cakes/runes and acc services
i bet my ass that dex made gazillions out of those lolpremium accs

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 Post subject: Re: [GRT]Donations:pros and cons
PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 9:47 pm 
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3rd option is the best imo
donations are something that a player gives willingly with no expected reward
thats what donations mean
and that disclaimer you just wrote ....
its just a play of words
there practicly selling ingame items for cash
but mascarade it as something else AND YOU KNOW IT !
so like i said 3rd option = best

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:22 pm 
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Sekkurel wrote:
3rd option is the best imo
donations are something that a player gives willingly with no expected reward
thats what donations mean
and that disclaimer you just wrote ....
its just a play of words
there practicly selling ingame items for cash
but mascarade it as something else AND YOU KNOW IT !
so like i said 3rd option = best

nigga pleaze
be realistic :D mascarade is something u see everyday..like reading ur daily newspaper
the official description of donations is that
nobody forces u to donate
selling is forbidden
here comes donating and "thanks giving"

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 10:55 pm 
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oh comon be real
i admit its not selling NOR donation
its in a grey area

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 Post subject: Re: [GRT]Donations:pros and cons
PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2010 11:34 pm 
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you can willingfully buy and/or donate, but in case of donation you wont expect anything back.
on the other hand when you're giving out money for the cause to obtain something thats pretty fuckin much called trading to me.
this so called donation+expected "thanks giving" = trading.
thats it, dont sugarcoat the shit.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 12:45 am 
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Sekkurel wrote:
oh comon be real
i admit its not selling NOR donation
its in a grey area

exactly:D
all this donating and thanks giving is for the lollaw-u leave a backdoor to save ur ass if fbi decides that u earn 2 much cash(rofl)

the truth is that somehow the bills have to be paid
and thats not cheap at all
im for any type of rewards if they are balanced cuz the happier the administration-the better the server

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 Post subject: Re: [GRT]Donations:pros and cons
PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2010 6:09 pm 
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option no 2 is fine, in late game also dont have nothing against S items donations - let newbies catch a bit, others will run in s80/84 in that time anyway
and what is even more important about option no1:
if u wont dontate for smthg, u will buy it on ebay or some similiar website, so i think its better to help servar


btw ppl who voted for options no 3 or 4 r in 95% ppl who simply cant afford donations such as in point no1 and r nothing more but jealous :)


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