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 Post subject: Re: [OFF] L2Citadel x5 | Hellbound Is Coming! (Preview)
PostPosted: Wed Nov 26, 2014 8:39 pm 
Elder

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It's been answered a lot of times... I don't know ppl just don't read?

20+4 buffslot, there is no "1 minute" quest in HB to enter the Island.

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Path to Hellbound

    Level - 78
    Type - One-Time Quest
    Description - Casian says that he can't help, and suggest that you seek out Galate at the Ivory Tower instead.
    Starting City/Village - Wasteland
    NPC - Casian


http://legacy.lineage2.com/news/gracia_12.html

This is not C4 based HB, not "DexBound" files. However MrLonely already answered that question and he is 1 of the admins of the server, just read posts.

MrLonely wrote:
We'll definiately have this the HB way at the start of the server. We're still discussing if we'll make it easier (Gracia like) at some point.

I guess experience will learn of its necessity.


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 Post subject: Re: [OFF] L2Citadel x5 | Hellbound Is Coming! (Preview)
PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 12:17 pm 
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mariolinho wrote:
BUMP

this:
BEKC wrote:
mariolinho wrote:
Will the full HB access quest be needed in order to access the Hellbound Island (after its gonna be opened) or only the short one (the one from G Final) ?



and also, how will the buff slot system be (HB like or G final) ?


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MrLonely wrote:
We'll definiately have this the HB way at the start of the server. We're still discussing if we'll make it easier (Gracia like) at some point.

I guess experience will learn of its necessity.


Buff system will be Hellbound-like because this is a Hellbound project.

FikuMiku wrote:
what rates on this server? 5x+?


Indeed, 5x.

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Check out our forum for more information on rates, features and the like and a pretty healthy discussion on these topics. We're open to suggestions but this will be a Hellbound project at its core so dont expect stuff that was added past Hellbound.

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 Post subject: Re: [OFF] L2Citadel x5 | Hellbound Is Coming! (Preview)
PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 1:48 pm 
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separate active trigger buffs is a must imo, or you could keep buffs as it is until people reach endgame then you can update to gracia part 1, if not the people that will play on the server will start complaing on forums. its inevitable Mr. Anderson, solo players will not complain.

take into account new HB buffs:
countercritical = buff + active trigger
fighter/archer will trigger
protection of rune. trigger
all 81 3rd class skill buffs.

All these takes buff slots. on retail they changed buffslots on gracia part 1 cause all of these new skills overbuff bothered the players. and its kind of a logical thing.


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 Post subject: Re: [OFF] L2Citadel x5 | Hellbound Is Coming! (Preview)
PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 6:03 pm 
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Those triggers, at least protection skills work a bit differently on HB than GF. I'm even telling you, you never played a real Gracia Final unless it was Retail, cause private servers are using leaked Freya scripts, kinda downgraded to GF but still hell a lot freya stats and droptables, skilldata everywhere.

We work for more than 5 months on this HB extender and you say update to Gracia Part 1? Is not some java.. what you are telling impossible, unless you would like to fund and convince our devs.
TBH ain't happening.


btw Counter Critical is Gracia Final skill/buff.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 27, 2014 8:59 pm 
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if fighter/archer will and prot rune doesn't consume buff slots on ur server then thats a good thing and nothing needs to be changed


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 3:33 am 
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MrLonely wrote:
We'll definiately have this the HB way at the start of the server. We're still discussing if we'll make it easier (Gracia like) at some point.

I guess experience will learn of its necessity.
If thats gonna happen, can you tell us when will that point be ( 1 week / 2 weeks / 1 month after HB opens ? )



Spiers wrote:
Those triggers work a bit differently on HB than GF
Can you explain what do you mean by that


Spiers wrote:
private servers are using leaked Freya scripts, downgraded to GF
I'm not sure what servers you are talking about but these days all big servers that have G Final are using the L2off G Final pack (the one RPG-CLUB first used years ago)


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:12 am 
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all those triggers have been reworked in Gracia, in HB

Protection of Rune
Increase M. Def., and instantly increase additional M. Def. if serious damage is caused.

So they won't trigger the same way they do on Gracia. I can't give extra info, there will be obt so ppl can test and see how it works.

Since there is only that leak of GF files, I'm talking about that. Yes even RPG Club has mixed up scripts, uncared as it is. Contains Freya/Hi5 stats, exploits.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 2:06 pm 
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Spiers wrote:
Protection of Rune
Increase M. Def., and instantly increase additional M. Def. if serious damage is caused.

So they won't trigger the same way they do on Gracia. I can't give extra info


if they hit you, you gain the trigger buff which takes a buff slot; is simple as that !

same for elemental protection / fighters will / archers will / subclass haste / subclass minicov / subclass celestial / subclass UD.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 5:10 pm 
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There is difference between HB and GF. I didn't copy that skill info just because I don't the skill at all.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 6:02 pm 
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Spiers wrote:
I didn't copy that skill info just because I don't the skill at all.


what difference ?

I cant understand your english


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 28, 2014 10:32 pm 
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Let's continue discussion about those trigger skills. I know one HB/Gracia part 1 video from Retail (if we check damage it's probably Hellbound, but I am still not sure), but I strongly believe that it's HB because of that atk.speed skill triggering for bow user which worked @ retail only in Hellbound chronicle. And if I remember correctly in Gracia part 1 they fixed that, so this skill wasn't triggered for bow users anymore.


In the video you can clearly see that subclass skill which increases atk.speed is trigerred and uses buff slot (and if you compare it with rpg club GF server it totally different thing). So I believe that admins are right at this point at least. We haven't seen any true GF server yet. Especially RPG club, which has tons of features which doesn't fit GF chronicle.

Here is that HB video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ny8vYD7ITQ8


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 12:04 am 
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shhjuu wrote:


thats not HB , thats gracia (check the buff slots)


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:10 am 
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its gracia and the skill got nothing to do w gracia clients or so. its not working in retail HB only , its atk speed buff from PVP bow.
maybe u are talking about fighters will(81 skill) ? if it does activate on Bow then its bug but it cant be in the video cuz the archer is 78

making triggers to use own buff slots would be nice . how 82 protection skills are obtained in HB? anthry and valakas only?


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:37 am 
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bemyfrag wrote:
making triggers to use own buff slots would be nice . how 82 protection skills are obtained in HB? anthry and valakas only?

+1, I guess thats what every1 would agree on

And yes, 81+ skills are only on big epics

http://l2citadel.com/wiki/index.php?tit ... en_Scrolls


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:42 am 
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mariolinho wrote:
Spiers wrote:
I didn't copy that skill info just because I don't the skill at all.


what difference ?

I cant understand your english


mmaybe. i won't argue, but still trigger skills uses buff slot in hb, graci part X. Maybe we should have vote if we want buffslot HB like or GF+ with seperate slots.


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