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 Post subject: Sub Skills list
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:53 pm 
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TANKS (PA,TK,DA,SK)
Chance Haste
Summoner Spirit
Master Crit Rate
Emergent: lvl 6 P atk

DAGGERS (TH,AW,PW)
Boost evasion
Celestial
Counter Defense
Emergent: lvl 6 M def

ARCHERS (PR,HE,SR)
Increase Range
Counter Celestial
Counter Defense
Emergent: lvl 6 P atk

NUKERS (Necro,SPH,SPS,Sorc)
Summoner Spirit
Counter Celestial
UD
Emergent: lvl 6 P def

SUMMONERS (ES,PS,WK)
Boost CP
Cele
UD
Emergent: lvl 6 M def

HEALERS (Cardi,EE,SE,PP)
CP Boost
Cele
UD
Emergent: lvl 6 P def

SWS/BD
Chance Haste
Master Focus
UD
Emergent: lvl 6 P atk

OL/WC
Summoner Spirit
Chance Haste
UD
Emergent: lvl 6 M atk

WS/BH
Chance Haste
Counter Celestial
UD
Emergent: lvl 6 P atk

Titan
Chance Haste
Master Focus
UD
Emergent: lvl 6 M def

Tyrant
Summoner Spirit
Chance Haste
UD
Emergent: lvl 6 M def

Gladiator
Master M def
Cele
UD
Emergent: lvl 6 M def

Warlord
Chance Haste
Master M def
UD
Emergent: lvl 6 M def




Detailed info about certification skills and their effects here.
General Informations:

Before you can choose your subclass skills you have to complete the quest More then Meets the Eye
You can learn subskills in Ivory Tower, on human floor. NPCs name is Avant Garde.
In order to learn subskills you must have books from grand magister. Go to him, choose subclass option and then subclass certification. If you would like to change your skills you have to pay 10kk to Avant Garde NPC, who will erase all your skills.
At lvls 65 and 70 you can learn emergent skill, and when you reach 75 you will be able to choose Master skill or Class Specific skill.

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 Post subject: Re: Sub Skills list
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 1:55 pm 
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I took them mostly from sub skills topic, but i had no idea about kamaels so post it here and i will edit 1st post ;] also feel free to flame and post suggestions ;]

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 Post subject: Re: Sub Skills list
PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 2:32 pm 
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discussion is open for tanks
to make sorting out suggestions easier we will proceed like this-comment setup for only 1 class type,once we are done with it i will clean the topic and open the discussion for the next class type

i agree with the tanks setup

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 25, 2010 10:09 pm 
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tyrant mdef ???
hmmm i find it wierd
i go full out patk on dd classes especially tyrants since there incredible resistent ( ogre, tones of hp )
also the amount you get from that mdef skill you can get from jwls with 1 extra enchant also ogre helps alot in that domain 2 so i suggest patk instead of mdef

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 Post subject: Re: Sub Skills list
PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 11:55 am 
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then suggest roflek...
imo its good enough

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 2:32 pm 
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10% atk speed and p atk is kewl i think

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 26, 2010 10:40 pm 
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i feel like tanks are set :D
now discussion open for daggers

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:23 pm 
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me 2 ;f
btw, take a look on emergents too

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 02, 2010 12:34 pm 
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:07 pm 
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how much patk u get from emergent lvl 6? isnt better 6 lvl pdef for tanks???


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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:27 pm 
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nikeca wrote:
how much patk u get from emergent lvl 6? isnt better 6 lvl pdef for tanks???


not much but id rather go for patk on tank (extra patk helps at oly)

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cele ud eva
NEVER CHOSE MASTER MDEF/PDEF
for nukers cele ud zerk(spirit)

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:47 pm 
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As a dagger, i prefer Cele, Haste, Evasion(Or boost CP, or anything else). As emergent, lvl 6 P.def, to give me an advantage vs other daggers/melee classes. Mdef is kinda useless, i don't know how much it'll help since mages die like in no time in 1v1, if not, u'r dead anyway. I choose haste because i'm thinking this is not dedicated only for PvP, but for both, pvp and pve, since i'm playing a low rate server, i need to pve a bit too. Maybe in late game you can remove it, but it's a must for farming.

Also for tanks, i think UD is better instead of master crit rate or summoner spirit since tanks have quite much Pdef/Mdef, and 20% means much more than it means to other classes, and it's better for RB fights, or mass pvp. What you did there it's mostly olympiad sub-skill list, or 1v1. You must think at more factors not just end-game oly sh1t....

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:49 pm 
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miahi wrote:
Also for tanks, i think UD is better instead of master crit rate or summoner spirit
gl subbing tank on a tank


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Vortex wrote:
miahi wrote:
Also for tanks, i think UD is better instead of master crit rate or summoner spirit
gl subbing tank on a tank

What's wrong :?:

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 03, 2010 8:55 pm 
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u cant
also, haste is useless unless u want to kill mobs till death

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